Cannabis Harm Minimisation:

challenging the polarised debate

How Crime Took On the World

Posted by helensello on July 24, 2008

Misha Glenny’s piece on cannabis grows in British Columbia – listen to it here (for at least a week)

Canada’s Spreading Cannabis Crop

 

 

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ACMD – Cannabis classification and Public Health (2008)

Posted by helensello on May 7, 2008

The report is now on  the ACMD website  .

A bit of a frustrating day – I was told I would get a call back on Radio 5 live today in which the topic was “What would make you stop smoking cannabis” and sitting there nervous for an hour and they did not ring.

In spite of my extreme frustration I’m going to be positive – there are lots of challenges in the media today to this nonsense. I mean the nonsense of the decision by the government to go against the recommendations of ACMD.  Harm minimisation rules OK !!

And watch out for input from Transform on the media circuit today

Helen

 

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Announcement today

Posted by helensello on May 7, 2008

Gordon Brown will be announcing today the decision on whether cannabis should be reclassified.

We will be able to find out if he is taking advice from a panel of experts  or from the Daily Mail .  We shall see if he has thought through “giving a message”

What worries me most on a personal level is the effect a move to “B” would be likely to have on people with severe mental health problems.  And I don’t mean it will be “gving a message” to them about risk because it won’t.  Plenty of people are already telling them about risks of cannabis alcohol tobacco and other drugs.  No I mean increase of stigmatism  and there is plenty of that already.  Let us hope that the  mentally ill are not blamed for any change in the law. 

I want my son to be supported in his specific vulnerability, not punished by the law.  And I don’t want his vulnerablity to be seen as a reason to punish others. That would not help his rehabilitation

And children? How are we going to stop children using cannabis ?  By division or working together?  Do we deal with the problem of drunk teenagers by arresting adults having a glass of wine with their meal? No we do not, and nor should we take this approach with cannabis. 

Moving to “B” would be a sad blow for getting messages across about risks.

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All Party Parliamentary Group on Cannabis and Children – update

Posted by helensello on April 28, 2008

Re previous post – I got an invitation to go the night before and I was not able to rearrange my day and travel that far – so I did not attend this meeting. 

I emailed several people who I knew were attending and requested that this was read out.  I do not know if it was or not

 

PLEASE CAN YOU ENSURE THAT THIS SHORT PIECE IS READ OUT AT THE MEETING THIS AFTEROON – many thanks Helen
I was only informed that I could come to this meeting last night in spite of asking several times .  Sadly at such short notice I am not able to do the travelling today  so I will not be able to contribute to this very important issue in person today 
 
Please will you instead ensure that this short piece is read out this afternoon
 
 
Hi
 
My name is Helen Sello and Im the mother of a young man wich schizophrenia who is badly affected by any use of cannabis.  He used it 10 years ago when he was a teenager and I was at that time  ignorant of  any links between cannabis use and mental  illness.
 
I have for the last few years campaigned to raise awareness of the specific issues and risks of canabis use by chidren and the complexity of its effect on mental illness  and have spoken at 3 national cannabis legalisation rallies.
 
I want to say  that any action to raise awareness, to discourage children’s use for example , has got to WORK.  And to find out what works there MUST be engagment of those affected by the issues , (not just people who agree with you!).   
 
Threats of punishment get people’s backs up. Alienating the people you wish to inform is not the way to go  Moving it back to B would put the dampers on proper imaginative health information which is what is needed.
 
If you look at cannabis websites on the net and responses to articles about cannabis in the media. you will see a clear pattern – if the issues are presented pragmatically – if there is aknowledgement that it is complicated and not all cannabis use is automatically  dangerous for all – then the responses from cannabis  users are likely  to be also pragmatic. Most users want to use it as safely as possible and don’t in any case support children’s use
 
But articles demanding increased punishment have very different responses – no, many of the respondents say, cannabis is harmless, it hasn’t done me any harm.
 
The issues about cannabis are not going to be solved in any way at all by moving it from class C to class B .  All this does is increases the polarity of the debate and adds to bad feeling
 
We need to find ways of engaging cannabis users in finding ways of getting children not to use it.   

Did you know there are  500+ cannabis  groups  on Facebook ?  People like using it and they like talking about it. Lets engage cannabis users in dialogue not alienate them and punishment them.

 

 
Here’s some suggestions –
 
- Partnership working with cannabis users groups, – with advice about safest use  if you are going to use it use it as safely as possible.
 
- Close working with people with a dual diagnosis of drug and mental health  problems   - have a look at Lifeline’s “David the man with the transparent head” for a good example.
 
Plenty more possiblitlies – but moving to B is not the way to go.  this would not get any message across, it would not stop people using cannabis and it would put up barriers – not the way to go for discouraging children’s use
 
Helen Sello

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All Party Parliamentary Group on Cannabis and Children

Posted by helensello on April 27, 2008

There is a meeting at the house of commons tomorrow Monday 28th April of the “All Party Parliamentary Group on Cannabis and Children”  It will be chaired by Graham Brady Conservative MP and apparently has 3 vice chairs from other parties.

 

I have emailed 4 times asking if I can come to this meeting .  Emails to Debra Bell of Talking about Cannabis, Graham Brady  and to the contact email on Debra Bells site (which bounced)

 

I was ignored; no one even had the decency to tell me to bugger off   The only answer I got was from Graham Brady’s secretary who said she had passed my email to Debra Bell who is doing the administration for the group.

 

I’m pretty disgusted with this – not just about the personal slight but about the structure of government in this country.  As a carer – the mother of a young man who is seriously affected by mental illness – I have for several years been campaigning  for a greater understanding of the specific risks of the use of cannabis  by children and those with a mental illness.  

 

I would have said at this meeting  – if I had been invited which I was not – is that any action to raise awareness, to discourage children’s use for example , has got to WORK.  And to find out what works there MUST be engagment of those affected by the issues , (not just people who agree with you!).   Where is the evidence that moving cannabis back to B would “get the message across”.?  Threats of punishment get people’s backs up. Alienating the people you wish to inform is not the way to go  Moving it back to B would put the dampers on proper imaginative health information which is what is needed.

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STOP PRESS

 

The power of Blogging – at 00.28 this morning I received an inviation to attend this meeting. This is not fair and I really dont know if I can rearrange my day and to travel and get there and maybe not have any opportunity to say my piece.  I have written to the organisers find out the date of the next meeitng. And of course to give a presentation

 

Helen

 

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Engagement pt 94

Posted by helensello on April 13, 2008

Vernon Coaker made a presentation  at the “Tackling drugs reducing crime” conference in Nottingham this week.

He said :

“Greater access to treatment and more effective treatment has not only delivered results for individuals, it has also benefited society and is helping to break the cycle between drug misuse and offending. And those offenders who enter drug treatment through the Criminal Justice System – through, yes, a degree of coercion – do as well as those who enter treatment completely voluntarily. So I hope we can now all accept that what matters is what happens when people get into treatment rather than how they get there.”

Do people who are forced into drug treatment do as well as those who have made the decisions that it it what they want?  Not according to Mark Eaton, quoted in Centre for policy Studies “2008 Drug Strategy – The Continuing Nationalisation of addiction“.

The real business of this strategy is about spending something like £4 billion of public money over the next decade on drug treatment. Now, the point about that is that this strategy was actually written after the Treasury last year agreed its funding for all of this, based on the same targets as the old strategy. So frankly, whatever the press release says, we can be confident that this new plan will be very similar to that old one, based primarily on measuring how many people are signed up for treatment, and the problem with that is it doesn’t tell you whether treatment is actually doing any good. If you remember, last October on the Today programme, we revealed some figures which showed that of the 180,000-odd people who were signed up for treatment, 20,000 never actually had any treatment, 80,000 didn’t complete their treatment, and just 5000, less than 3%, left the government programme free of illegal drugs. Now, since that report, one academic in the drugs world said it was, ‘like a rocket fired into the English drug treatment structure, an Emperor’s New Clothes moment’.

 

In my opinion engagement is esential for change.  If people have no intention of giving up drugs how can the treatment work?  I would like to see the evidence that those who are forced to have treatment do as well as those who chose to have it.

Vernon Coaker also talked about agencies working together:

” I wanted to say how proud I think we should be of those achievements and the investment that has made them happen. They would not have happened without the commitment of front line staff such as police officers, drugs workers, probation and prison staff and many, many other agencies. I want to thank the many people in this room who have been part of that success both here in Nottinghamshire and also nationally.”
And about  working with communities :

“Harnessing local participation provides quality intelligence and a better understanding of local concerns; and, just as importantly, it can provide a hostile environment for drug dealers and other criminals. And if that results in some more appropriate role models for our young people, then we will truly have made progress.”

But true partnership is for everybody - he talks about tackling drugs without any reference to engaging drug users themselves.   Why should he be listened to if he does not show that he is listening to others?  Drug users ar just as much vulnerable to local crime as everybody else.  Partnership working engages everyone – it is not about us and them.

 

 

 

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Sending out messages part 2

Posted by helensello on April 6, 2008

Brown, in his poorly briefed statement, wants to go against the recommendations of the government appointed experts if they want it to stay at C.  Did he really think that the recommendations would be any different from what  they were 2 years ago?

I sincerely hope that the ACMD makes recommendations based on harm reduction and engagement. Transform has made some predictions about the outcomes.  IMHO central to any recommendations is that issues of risk about cannabis use are health risks,  and people should be made aware of them. Punishing users does not engage. The government is not suggesting that alcohol should be banned because it is being misused. 

I stand by my resolve not to comment on research papers that I have not read, so I have nothing to say on the one that claims that rates of schizophrenia are going down,  apparently based on data from GP practices.  Other than if this is right it’s good news - schizophrenia is a horrible  illness, not least because of the stigma that sufferers and their families have to put up with.  I just hope that the paper makes clear any limitations, and breaks down what is meant by schizophrenia and psychosis. There is a big difference between mild and transient and longterm and treatment resistent. And the patients  themselves – I don’t know if any of the 193 gp practices are in areas of high black and ethnic minority poputations such as south east london (and probably to raise issues about discrimination in mental health services would be beyond its remit)  Or if the study made allowances for the homeless mentally ill who are less likely to be registered with a G.P.. And of course I hope it discusses cause and effect – why are rates  going down ?  Would they  go down even more if there were less misuse of drugs? 

And I also  hope, that the ACMD is not making one piece of research central to its recommendations when in fact it has been reviewing a vast amount of evidence.  My concern  is that focussing on one paper can make people complacent about the mental health and other risks in spite of evidence. 

I’ve not done any research but my feelings are that the reporting about cannabis and its relative safety and risks has improved and there is an increase of a pragmatic, considered reporting .  But there are still the cannabis is completely harmless/harmful brigades.  And I have been trying hard to contact Debra Bell whose organisation “Talking about Cannabis”  has an aim  “to provide and stimulate debate on cannabis education, prevention and treatment”.  Her lack of response to my emails suggests limited commitment to debate.

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“Sending out messages”

Posted by helensello on April 3, 2008

The BBC is reporting that the ACMD is going to recommend that cannabis should not be moved to Class B.  I’m glad – I dont beleive that the classification A B or C gives out any information about the specific risks of its use.

 So how should messages of potential risk,  particularly risks of mental illness for young and vulnerable people, be “sent”?

I support the approach of RETHINK   – “The Government to deliver on the massive public education programme promised in 2006 and stop being distracted by the reclassification issue.”

But more I would like campaigns about harm minimisation  be led by adult cannabis  users.  Why – because they are more likely to be believed than governments. I dont think many adults – whether cannabis users or not – want  children and teens to use it. We should be working together to discourage them from doing so.  And support those with a mental illness who want to give up or cut down their cannabis use.

 Sadly, I suspect that the concept of harm minimisation is too complicated for many journalists and they will report the decision to leave it at C as an encouragement to use it. It is not.

  

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Should I smoke dope?

Posted by helensello on March 27, 2008

No longer On the BBC I player but available here.

Comments welcome

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Feedback from ACMD Cannabis review 5th February 2008

Posted by helensello on February 10, 2008

This feedback is from my notes. Any gaps and there are plenty – please look at the research if you can find it (rather than newsaper reports which are likely to be biased) . Some of the research papers might not be the exact ones they were refering to – I’m just looking on the web and finding the nearest available.

1. Welcome from Sir Malcome Rawlins, chair of ACMD

I missed this but apparently he said said he had received a letter of reassurance from the Home Secretary after reports that she was prepared to disregard the committee’s recommendations.”I will be reading a letter from the Home Secretary that I received yesterday, basically saying that the Government has an open mind.”

Asked if he had been reassured by the pledges in Ms Smith’s letter, Sir Michael said: “Absolutely, yes.”  (  Mental Health  Foundation   )

 SESSION 1 – CANNABIS POTENCY AND BEHAVIOUR

2.  Dr Mike White (FSS) “THC content of seized cannabis and cannabis content of reefer cigarettes

3.  David Potter (GW Pharmaceuticals) “THC content of UK Cannabis”

His powerpoint presentation was very similar to this one which  I found googling.

Rising potency of street seizures of cannabis

 Have a look at slides 16-23 – CBD and THC

 4.  Dr Les King “Potency and UK market share of cannabis products”

He started by criticising the press for misquoting the findings of studies on strength.

Current Home Office summary will be completed in late March 2008 . In 2002 Sinsimmilla was 15% of the market, now it is 70-80%

5.  Marije Wouters (Uni of Amsterdam) “Cannabis and smoking behaviour”

Ive found several research papers with her name on but cant find this one. Findings were of three cluster “types”  

Cluster 1- Stongest high – mainly young males

Cluster 2 – Consistent high – moderate user group

Cluster 3 – Steady quantity  – these aged 40+

Cluster 1 were found to have the greatest risk of dependence

SESSION 2 – CANNABIS AND POTENTIAL MENTAL HEALTH RISKS

6. Prof Glyn Lewis (Academic Unit of Psychiatry; Bristol University) “Cannabis Psychosis and depression

Looked at longitudinal studies .Talked about how the reseach was miquoted in the Mail which said that here is psychosis risk in one joint, which was a misquote.

 He talked less about cannabis and  depression – said there is less evidence and less conclusive

 Conclusion from longitudinal studies : There is evidence that cannabis can lead to psychotic symptoms.  Though one cannot be certain that the relationhsip is causal, there is now sufficient evidence to warn people that cannabis use could increase the risk of psychotic illness.

In answer to a question from ACMD member re doubling risk. He said if your risk is low doubling it is  still not a  great risk but if your risk is high – you’ve got a first degree relative who has schizophrenia  – then doubling the risk makes the risk very big.

In response to another question he said the longitudinal stidies did not look at potency, they asked people if they used cannabis.

Dr Paul Morrison (dept of Psychological Medicine, King’s college London) “The acute effects fo THC and CBD”

Intravenous injection of THC to healthy adult volunteers. Double blind study. Effect on higher cognitive function – disassociation in the mind. Some of the volunteers were pretreated with CBD as well as THC and this did make a difference
This one matches what he reported ;   but I cant find a reference with the results.
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The first study was filmed and will be on BBC3 soon.
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8. Dr Matthew Hickman (Centre for research on drugs and health behaviour; Bristol University) : “Cannabis use and schizophrenia”
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Here and also here.
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He said there is a lack of reliable data – a need to improve the data and the evidence base. Some studies say rate of schizophrenia have gone up others that it has gone down.
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9 Marjore Wallace (CEO of SANE) : “Cannabis : the collateral  damage”
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She quoted newspaper articles and gave some case studies . Database of 100,000 caller to Saneline  incuding an increasing number in which cannabis  is quoted as an agrevating factor. She said she reluctantly wants it moved to Class B to counter mixed messages, and challenge signals being put out that it is soft and harmless. She said she has no wish to criminalise . She was asked if she wanted coffee houses, and she said no, better education.
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(As someone whose family has been affected by severe mental illness  I agree with Marjorie Wallace that these illnesses can be awful for the  for the sufferer and also their family. However, I did not like her saying “schizophrenics have useless lives” which is just not true – and I dont like language that denies the optimism that is important to recovery. If I misheard you Marjorie, I apologise)
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10 Paul Corry, Jane Harris and a carer (RETHINK)
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They presented Educating Reefer, which is available as a download. Definitely worth reading. 
Rethink opposes reclassification to Class B . RETHINK wants to challenge resouces into education  and research, not wasting money on reclassification. The are campaigning to have health warnings on Rizlas.
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Further discussion about this is on the TRANSFORM blog
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11. Louis Appleby (National Director for mental health - dept of health) “Dual Diagnosis”
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He talked generally about Dual Diagnosis
Patient suicides – there are higher rates for those people with mental illness and a chaotic pattern of drug use, and cannabis is one of the drugs.
He also talked about use of street drugs on psychiatric wards
He said cannabis contributes to relapse and risk and health professionals have been complacent..  It is right to be cautions about any causal connection
Need for public health education and improved services
He said if it were moved ot B it would not reduce use.  It could reinforce  strong public health message. Regrading could lead to more powers against dealers (incuding those who hang around mental health units). But it could also mean mental health patients getting  punishments. It is finely balanced
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Comment from an ACMD menber – the punishment for dealing would not change.  And in reply to a question about alcohol, Louis Appleby said  he could have given the same talk about alcohol – there is difficulty in disentangling .
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This is not  his presentation powerpoint but it is relevant :   and Ive found this very informative powerpoint about Dual diagnosis
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(In my opinion an understanding about Dual Diagnosis is important – people who have a mental illness and also use drugs get a very poor deal and are doubly stigmatised. And the relationship between the drug taking and the mental illness is never simple.)
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SESSION 3 – CANNABIS ; PHYSICAL AND HEALTH EFFECTS
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12 Dr Simon Thomas (Newcastle Regional Drugs and Therapeutics Centre) “The physical harms of cannabis use”
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He talked about chronic long term effects, but excluded the issues of psychological addiction and withdrawal.
He said cannabis smoke is similar to tobacco smoke. However it is smoked differently  and also ingested in other ways.
He talked about respiratiory health and lung fuction and cancers pregnancy SIDS and mortality . 
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I will email him and request references
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Andrew Clatworthy “Cannabis use and Road traffic accidents”
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With acohol there is a prescribed limit. No prescribed limit for drugs unless you say nil. Dont know the effects on driving ability
Canabis drivers are often stopped because the are drivng too slowly
Cannabis and alcohol – when the driver has taken cannabis a small amount of alcohol can have a significant effect on driving
Cannabis can affect driving -
poor road tracking performance
divided attention
traffic flow – it can affect perception of time and colour
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Again – I haven’t got his powerpoint  so I will write to him for more information
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Debra Bell (TAC) “Cannabis and children  : the damaging effects on families”
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Debra has he same concerns as I do about risk for children but we have very different ways of tackling them. She engages with those who supports her but does not with those who put across a  different point of view.  Her presentation also lacked evidence. 
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I would be very happy to be part of a public debate with Debra Bell – “How do we cut the harm done by children and adolescent use of cannabis?” so we could both make a case for the way forward.
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15. Cindy Burnett (magistates association)
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She said downgrading to C sent out the wrong messages. Ther has be increased addction and increased criminal activity. She said It would be a positvie message to move it to B
She said she did not want young peple to be criminalisad.
She was asked a quesiton about  how to deal with children qnd she said they should be helped before they come to court
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UK government department represeetatives from Home Office dept of health and dept for chidrens schoools and families “government responce and actions from 2005 ACMD Cannabis report : FRANK BCS
They presented different government initiatives  including the Brain warehouse http://www.brainwarehouse.tv/  also radio ads “trip of a life time”  “paranoia”  “frank home grwon” and “frank whisperer”
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Prof Simon Lenton (National Drug Research INstitute, Australia “The impact of the legislative options for cannabis”
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here are some reference to Simon Lentons recent articles
He talked about the health issues and what is needed is public health approach not increased penalities 
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Steve Rolles (Transform Informtion officer)
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TRANSFORM’s submission to ACMD is here
See also here for Steve Rolles feedback of the day  here http://transform-drugs.blogspot.com/2008/02/acmd-cannabis-decision-stay-in-class-c.html
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Simon Byrne (Asst chilf constable Mersyside Police, ACPO lead on cannabis) Submission of evidence on the classification of cannabis
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The ACPO submission  is here
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Prof Simon Lenton on behalf of the Beckley Foundation  “Is cannabis us a contributory cause of psychosis?  If so, what are the implicaitons for a risk classification of cannabis?
See here for Wayne Hall of Beckley foundation  http://www.nzdf.org.nz/lets-talk-about-pot-WayneHall
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21.  Ipsos MORI “ACMD polling

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